Marriage is Not a Right: The Lies, Ignorance, and Delusion of the Radical Homosexual Movement
The Left is vocal as usual, but that doesn’t mean Conservatives and defenders of family values and traditional marriage have to stand idly by and watch waves of radical protesters deluding themselves into a “civil rights” movement akin to true civil rights movements of America’s Past. It’s dishonest and wrong.
That being said, 4 judges from California “declared” that marriage is a “fundamental right” regardless of sexual orientation. But is marriage inherently a right evoked by society?
We have a right to live, to pursue happiness, to bear arms, to free speech, but is marriage itself along the same plane of existence?
Society hands out marriage licenses recognizing a couple’s (man and woman) union in *holy matrimony*. In relation, society hands out driver’s licenses if you fulfill certain requirements. In the case of traditional marriage, you have to be man and woman, and in no blood or close relation. In other words, you can’t marry your brother, sister, mom, dad or 12-year-old girl or boy. Or, you can’t marry someone of the same sex. You CAN marry if you’re gay (if you have a propensity for homosexual behavior) because that’s not a criterion they ask for marriage. It’s subtle wording, but thanks to the brilliance and clarity of a Dennis Prager, it does make sense to me.
So, in other words, we don’t have a right to drive, nor do we have a right to marry. However, the requirements or prerequisites of marriage can changed or be “redefined.” Get it? So before you nutburgers start protesting for your “rights,” please acknowledge that you’re not fighting for your right to marriage, but you want to redefine what marriage is so you can be issued the same privileges and license to be recognized under current marriage law.
So if marriage, according to the infinite wisdom of activist judges, is a “fundamental right,” then there are no prerequisites. Under law, you can marry whoever or whatever you want. Because we don’t have to fulfill requirements to have free speech, pursuit of happiness, or a “right to life.” That’s why gun control can be seen as impinging on the arms rights. But that’s another issue entirely, so I’m not going there.
This boils down to the will of Californians and while the result was much narrower than in 2000 (61% of Californians upheld traditional marriage), the majority did speak. Because this isn’t about “rights” or “hatred” toward homosexuals. So if a No on 8 supporter is arguing for “gay rights,” then he or she is lying, ignorant, or deluded.
Of course, when you frame it as a “right,” people will think much, much, MUCH differently. And that’s why I strongly believe Prop 8 was so closely divided this time around than in years past. No one wants to take away the rights of anyone. But this is not a rights issue, but an issue of redefinition, privilege, and the legal and societal acceptance of an alternative lifestyle simply not of the same notion as race, sex, and ethnicity.
November 16, 2008 at 11:59 pm
Article 16 of the UN’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights says that marriage is a right.
November 17, 2008 at 12:23 am
@Nellie
Here’s article 16 in context: (1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
So, “without any limitation due to race, nationality, or religion.” Not sexual orientation. But any body of government can define “rights” however they want. In the US, marriage isn’t a fundamental right (as it shouldn’t be), but rather you have to fulfill the requirements to marry. But section 2 limits to “consent of intended spouses.” There are stipulations to this “right” to marriage. It’s legally defined in this context.
If the US or the States declared marriage as a right, then so be it. That means any such limitations (such as number of spouses to marry, age, etc.) to marriage are invalid. If marriage is simply a right and not a privilege or a civil liberty, then denying the right to another group (such as those who want to marry multiple spouses for instance) has no bearing.
And according to Section 3, the family is the natural and fundamental unit of the family in society. Unfortunately, gay couples cannot conceive “naturally.” Sorry to be politically incorrect there.
November 18, 2008 at 11:01 am
I loved this article! We need more information like this. Author you are my hero. Gays need to realize that if they have the right so do the poligamists, beastials and pedofiles. Should we give them the right too? Where has our world gone to?
Conservatives lets be more vocal like they are: I also liked this article very much about the radical gays:
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977510102
November 18, 2008 at 11:16 am
@Sevak Thanks for the support! We need more clear thinkers like you on this issue or else we’ll be silenced and drowned out by the “Haters” on the opposite side. I’ll definitely check out that article out!
Let’s keep up the good fight!
December 19, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Marriage can be a fundamental right and still be regulated, just like everything else. We do also have regulations on our freedom of speech. What the hell is ‘the pursuit of happiness’, anyway? How could you possibly have a prerequisite or regulation on the act of trying to be happy? That, sir, is retarded.
If marriage is a fundamental right, everyone has the right to be married. The question is, who should they be allowed to marry? Right now only a man and a woman. Gay people want a man and a man or a woman and a woman to be added to that list. Nobody’s pushing for 100 wives or marriages to zebras or anything like that. This is really blown out of proportion by people scared of change, and somehow scared that if gay people are allowed to run rampant that the world goes to hell in a handbasket. It’s stupid.
December 19, 2008 at 3:07 pm
@pumpkinpie *Sigh* Fine, call it retarded if you will. But the point is that in the US marriage *IS NOT* a fundamental right. And even if the UN declares marriage as a right, 1) the US is not under the rule of the UN and 2) it explicitly say that marriage constitutes the fundamental creation of the family (natural family, I must stress. It was written in the late 1940’s after all).
First of all, we have the right to *persue* however we will as long as it is not a violation of civil law. For instance, you can’t murder someone if that will make you happy. But you have the right to pursue your self-interests to attain happiness, whatever that may be. The gov’t will not regulate your choices and behavior (which means, if living with another man or a woman is it, so be it).
Marriage isn’t a fundamental right. If it were, then marriage of any kind is allowed under the law. If you regulate who can or cannot get married, IT’S NOT A RIGHT. Do you get it? That’s why I brought up gun control as a form of impinging on the rights of American citizens (but again, that’s another matter). You can’t simply legally say that marriage is a fundamental right, and then deny certain groups (incest, multiple wives, zebra, etc.) that right. Then it becomes a privilege with prereqs you must qualify for.
The gov’t and the people have a vested interest to keep marriage between one man and one woman. Gays can marry and have their own ceremonies and have civil unions, but their private marriage ceremonies will not be recognized by the state. Prop 8 says that you’re free to have whatever relationship or partnership you want. It simply means maintaining a definition of marriage that the majority of people want to retain as one man and one woman because only one man and one woman can procreate *naturally*. And you’re intellectual dishonest if you believe that a same-sex couple is fundamentally the same as a heterosexual couple. Men and women are *different* if you say otherwise, I’m going to track your IP, find your little shack, and knock some sense into you (of course, I’m kidding, but who knows, you might see my jest as a legitimate threat).
In other words, grow up.